Required Vaccines?

October 10th, 2009

It not that I fear vaccines, only those who are making the vaccines.

It must be noted that the Government does not have a clean record when it comes to faulty vaccines and often hides the negative impacts that have resulted. The weakened virus is typically the least of our worries in these shots versus the added chemical which are present. Who really wants a Mercury injected via a flu shot? For kids there are plenty of studies that show the adverse affects that can result. In my opinion mandating any shot is a violation against ones liberties. And if one attempts to keep their child at home in order to avoid getting the shot, law enforcement can be used along with Child Protection Services (CPS) to potentially take the kids away. Home school will soon be the only option. Our system is quickly removing our parental right to raise our children, and it doesn’t stop there…

More are forgoing vaccines for kids

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Bad Public Relations for God

October 10th, 2009

So where exactly was God when the Neumann’s gave up prayers for their daughter? Could God be absent? Jesus’ followers did see him leave ascending into the sky and were told that he’d return in the same way. Was this case a slap in the face to a God who is suppose to be omnipotent? If God knew that it would give him bad Public Relations (PR) and help the Atheist point of view, you’d think that he would have done a slight miracle of some kind. Unlike Job in the Bible these people has signs and could have prevented the death of their daughter.

“An expert on religion says the Neumanns may have become too focused on one way of thinking in their religious beliefs, and that may have ultimately contributed to their daughter’s death.”

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Message of Christ?

September 27th, 2009

Question: What do you think was the message of Christ?
Most would probably said that Christ came as a living sacrifice for the forgiveness of sins. But now look at what Jesus said his message was…

Luke 4:43 “I must proclaim the good news of the kingdom of God to the other cities also; for I was sent for this purpose.”

Luke 8:1 “1After this, Jesus traveled about from one town and village to another, proclaiming the good news of the kingdom of God.”

Luke 9:11 “He welcomed them and spoke to them about the kingdom of God, and healed those who needed healing.”

Mark 1:15 ”The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God has come near; repent, and believe in the good news.”

Matthew 24:14 “And this good news of the kingdom will be proclaimed throughout the world, as a testimony to all the nations.”

Matthew 6:9-10 “This then is how you should pray: ‘Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your name, your kingdom come, your will be done on earth as it is in heaven.’”

Jesus’ message and Good News was about the coming of God’s kingdom through Jesus Christ.

 Man changed his message and I was told that I was wrong for agreeing with Jesus.


Is Jesus Omnipotent?

September 27th, 2009

Omnipotent (Jer. 32:17,27), Omnipresent (Psalm 119:7-12), Omniscient (1 John 3:20)

Show me how Jesus is Omnipotent. How can this be possible when scripture clearly shows that he is in the flesh, yet has ascended into heaven and will return the same way he left? I guess it possible that the spirit of Jesus is with us, but then what about his physical body that is to return. If Jesus is here why does he let his people suffer? What if scripture is true and Christ is gone until his return as foretold in Revelations. The problem is that if Jesus isn’t omnipotent as the Bible shows, then the Trinity doesn’t hold up.

Acts 1:11  “They said, “Men of Galilee, why are you standing here looking into the sky? Jesus, whom you saw taken up from you into heaven, will come back in the same way you saw him go.”


Luke 16:19-31 “Rich Man and Lazarus”

September 27th, 2009

I had recently been talking with a friend about the parable of the Rich Man and Lazarus and whether or not this showed a spiritual heaven; yet, I do not believe this is the purpose of the parable. The purpose of the parable is at the end of it. The parable is about a rich man that was captive by death and the other man was brought up by Abraham into what I would presume was heaven. That being said the man tries to negotiate with Abraham to warn his brothers to live right so that they could be saved from death. Abraham tells the rich man that his brothers can learn from Moses and the prophets. But the rich man exclaims that if a dead person were to raise from the grave that they would truly change their heart and believe. Metaphorically this is speaking of Christ and his resurrection; one would think that after this event all would truly believe. Yet Abraham makes a statement, that if people will not believe Moses or the prophets, then they still will not believe one who comes back from the dead. In the parable Jesus was making a statement about himself exclaiming that there will still be people who won’t believe, even after his resurrection and these people will truly be lost just as the Rich Man was. This is the point that Jesus was telling through the parable.


Being Open to Scripture

September 26th, 2009

Maybe we should be more open to scripture.

There are many questions to be answered. The scripture says that God is spirit, yet could this be said because no one of that time saw God? Enoch walked with God Genesis 5:24, Abraham clearly saw God Genesis 12:7, Moses and the Elders saw God Exodus 24:11. Just because we or others haven’t seen God physically isn’t enough to believe that he is only in spirit. Doesn’t the Revelation say that God will live with his people? How can he live with his people if he’s not a physical being or some type of entity with a presence?

First I believe that one must realize that heaven is a physical place. Jesus was in a physical body upon his resurrection and ascended into the sky to be with his Father and God. In scripture sky and heaven are one in the same; this is the realm of God.

I’ve often been perplexed over whether God is a spirit or is a being or another dimension.

A spiritual heaven doesn’t make sense. Why would one die to be with the Father in a spiritual realm and then resurrect to be with the Son and away from the Father? The Bible says no such thing! When we are dead, we are but dust of the Earth until the resurrection where then Christ through the authority vested upon him by the Father will resurrect us to be with him. He will smite Satan and his Armies and then the Father will come and dwell with us and his Son. Note that scripture is clear that Jesus sits at the right hand of the Father. Let me paraphrase it as Jesus says in the Lord prayer, “Our Father who is in heaven… your kingdom is to come as your will, will be done on earth just as it is already done in heaven”. One of Jesus’ greatest messages is that the Kingdom is at hand, we just can’t see it as it is somewhere out there in space. Even Jesus said, I am not of this world. This should make this whole statement obvious.

The spirit or “breath of God” is given by God, also known as the breath of life. Upon death I believe it returns to the source, the Creator. The breath of God is what animates our soul. All living things are filled with the breath of life. I would believe that we all are of one spirit as that spirit comes from one source. Although, we can have a good or bad influence upon the spirit within depending on whether we chose the way of the world or the ways of God. He we pattern ourselves after Christ we will in essence have a Holy Spirit about us.

In regards to the questions…

Question: 1

I would question how would anyone explain Deut. 32:3-4 and 1 Cor. 10:2-4 if Jesus is NOT God. I have not found an explanation justifying how these verses could possibly be made to harmonize.

Answer: 1

In regards to the people that followed Moses, did they live forever or did they parish? The people did eventually parish. It says in 1 Cor. 10:4 “They drank from that spiritual rock that followed them, and that rock was Christ.” If they had truly drunk of Christ life giving water than they would have never died, thus this was speaking of Christ coming in the future resurrection where all will drink of the life giving water Rev 22:1. Thus when it says followed them; it meant to proceed after them. Jesus even said that he was spoken of by Moses.

Now let’s address Deut. 32:3-4 “The Rock! His work is perfect, for all His ways are just; A God of faithfulness and without injustice, Righteous and upright is He.” I don’t see a contradiction, the passage says that a God and not the God. There are many lords and gods but for us there is only One! The LORD of Lords and the God of gods. We must remember that god can also mean judge and Christ has been given all authority on earth and in heaven to judge. Of course this text can be written to try and give it a different meaning, but I don’t believe that we should try to do this when it is not concurrent throughout scripture. Scripture is clear that there is only One God and Father, and that Jesus sits at his right hand. I will add that v.18 does state that the Father was their Rock, thus showing that this is not a reference to Christ unless you were to believe that they are one in the same. Again I have to reference Isaiah 42:1 which clearly tells us that God planned to put his Spirit upon Christ. Unfortunately receiving God’s Holy Spirit doesn’t make one a litteral god or we’d all be gods; however receiving the word of God does give one the authority to judge as a god; meaning: one who passes judgement on mankind on God’s behalf. The best examples of this being Moses, Prophets, and Christ.

Question: 2

Also how would you explain the alpha and omega phrases in relation to Jesus and God being two or the same being.

Answer: 2

It must first be noted that Jesus didn’t know when he would return, only the father knew. The book of Revelation is message or truth about Christ that the Father revealed to him, so that he could show his servants what was to happen. Jesus’ sent his angel to show John what had been revealed to Christ’s by his Father. Thus the message is given by the Angel and speaks of both the Son and the Father. Note in Ch1 verse 4 “grace and peace to you from the One who is and was and is coming [the Father], and from the seven spirits before his throne, and from Jesus Christ [the Son who is shown as a separate individual]. V6 “…He [Christ] made us to be a kingdom of priests who serve God his Father.” One should remember this is all being spoken to John by an Angel. V8 says, “The LORD God says, “I am the Alpha and the Omega.” You will find in Revelation that God the Father is referred to as: the One Seated on the Great White Throne, the Alpha and Omega. Christ on the other hand is the first and the last which could be explained in 1 Cor. 15:45 “The first man Adam became a living being; the last Adam, a life-giving spirit.” Jesus being both the first and the last, being both living and a life-giving spirit. What gets me is Revelation 22:13 which I will agree is hard to ignore. This could be as I believe the Father speaking, yet then there is the common use of “first and last” which was used by Christ in Revelation 2:8. Thus my only explanation on this would be that “first and last” may have multiple possible uses. If this verse was to be believed as implied then we would have to believe that the Father and the Son are one in the same person and/or being which I feel in contrary to scripture.

Sincerely,

DoubtingFaith


Re: Jesus is not God Almighty

September 26th, 2009

Thank you for touching on this as I have shared this thought process.

Isaiah 42:1-9 Clear tells us who Christ is.

v.1 God clearly speaks saying,

Here is my servant, the one I support. He is the one I chose, and I am pleased with him. I have put my Spirit upon him, and he will bring justice to all nations.”

I’ve posted a few videos outlining various scripture that shows who Christ is and God purpose.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QaUtjqqx7o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7gE74DF6Eo

From Systematic Theology by Wayne Grudem,

It is important to remember the doctrine of the Trinity in connection with the study of God’s attributes. When we think of God as eternal, omnipresent, omnipotent, and so forth, we may have a tendency to think only of God the Father in connection with these attributes. But the biblical teaching on the Trinity tells us that all of God’s atrributes are true of all three persons, for each is fully God.”

I can’t find this in scripture. Read 1 Corinthians 15:27-28 for this tells of Jesus’ place.

20But Christ has indeed been raised from the dead, the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep. 21For since death came through a man, the resurrection of the dead comes also through a man. 22For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive. 23But each in his own turn: Christ, the firstfruits; then, when he comes, those who belong to him. 24Then the end will come, when he hands over the kingdom to God the Father after he has destroyed all dominion, authority and power. 25For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet. 26The last enemy to be destroyed is death. 27For he “has put everything under his feet.” Now when it says that “everything” has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ. 28When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all.

You will clearly note a hierarchy. All things are put under Jesus, excluding God himself and then Jesus puts himself under God. This is clearly two different person with different levels of Authority.

Jesus is clearly in the flesh upon his resurrection and in Acts 1:11

They said, “Men of Galilee, why are you standing here looking into the sky? Jesus, whom you saw taken up from you into heaven, will come back in the same way you saw him go.”

I’m sorry to say it but Jesus has left the building until the time of his return; by the way he didn’t know when he’d return either, only the Father knew… What happened to being all knowing?

And then there is Heaven or the sky. Unfortunately the Church has been spouting of a false belief that heaven is a place that one goes to after their death. The Trinity along with other beliefs of a spiritual heaven are all through pagan influences. If one reads the scripture it is clear that heaven is a physical place beyond the sky and that one day Jesus will return from heaven to instill God’s kingdom.

I feel that it is also clear that the “Lamb of God” is Christ while the One sitting on the Throne is the Father clearly showing two godly beings.

If one read the definition of the word “god” they will note that is also means judge. Those who have been given the words of God have been given the authority to judge on God’s behalf thus making them like gods. How many times can we ignore the scriptures that say Jesus was sitting at the right hand of God.

People will argue about the Book of John and how Jesus was the Word made flesh. But one must also realize that the Book of John was written for the Greeks. The Greeks didn’t understand the concept of a prophet who spoke the Word of God via the spirit of God. Note the spirit of God gave the prophets the word of God, thus making them like gods giving them the authority to judge God’s people. The greeks did not understand the concept of God’s spirit, yet did have a concept of the mind of God or the “Logos”; meaning the thoughts or words of God. Thus God’s thoughts, the mind of God, the Logos became flesh manifested in Jesus. This is the same as the spirit became flesh manifested in Jesus just as the prophet too had received the spirit. The true meaning was lost or distorted in translation and then used for a bad premise.

Unfortunately I think this is hard to accept because people who share this view are looked down upon by the Church. I don’t believe one should accept a lie just because everyone else does, because then Satan has already defeated you.

What I do believe is important is that we realize that Christ was sent to this Earth to be an example. Being fulling human and living a life without sin is a testament that it is possible. And we should strive to be Christ like. Fortunately for us God is a forgiving and merciful God, especially if you follow after his Son. See Ezekiel 18 where it tells us that each man will be judge for his own actions. If a good man turns evil he will truely die, but if a evil man turns good he will truely be saved. [Micah 6:6-9] Paraphrase, God doesn’t want your sacrifice he only wants you to do what is good, to do what is right and loving towards others, and to follow after him living a humble life.

God Bless


Views on God

April 19th, 2008
Agnostic
Jewish View

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The Who and What of God?

April 19th, 2008


Does Titus claim the deity of Jesus?

April 15th, 2008

I’ve been reading and I’ve come across this verse before, but I’d like to see how you’ve explained it.
 
Titus 2:13 “… the coming of the glory of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ.”
 
Written this way one could argue that there are two seperate persons, which I might agree with, but note that it gives the title Savior to Jesus.
 
I’ve also seen it like this,
Titus 2:13 “… the coming of the glory of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ.”
Which would seem to provide more support for a Unitarian belief that Jesus and the Father are one in the same.
 
The interesting thing is over in Titus 3:4 and 3:6
 
Titus 3:4 “But when the kindness and love of God our Savior was shown, he saved us because of his mercy.”
 
Titus 3:6 “God poured out richly upon us the Holy Spirit through Jesus Christ our Savior.”
 
I think this brings up an interesting question that can be found throughout the New Testament. Jesus and the Father are both called the Savior, does this tie them together and create the Trinity? Does Jesus actually save us or is it the Father? It is by Jesus’ sacrifice, but isn’t it the Father who raised Jesus from the grave. As far as I can tell this is the only thing that combinds the Father and Son as being one, that they are both called Savior. How do you address this and what are your thoughts on Titus 2:13 as this is the verse that many Christians stand by as the greatest evidence that Jesus is Savior and God.