Does Titus claim the deity of Jesus?

April 15th, 2008

I’ve been reading and I’ve come across this verse before, but I’d like to see how you’ve explained it.
 
Titus 2:13 “… the coming of the glory of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ.”
 
Written this way one could argue that there are two seperate persons, which I might agree with, but note that it gives the title Savior to Jesus.
 
I’ve also seen it like this,
Titus 2:13 “… the coming of the glory of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ.”
Which would seem to provide more support for a Unitarian belief that Jesus and the Father are one in the same.
 
The interesting thing is over in Titus 3:4 and 3:6
 
Titus 3:4 “But when the kindness and love of God our Savior was shown, he saved us because of his mercy.”
 
Titus 3:6 “God poured out richly upon us the Holy Spirit through Jesus Christ our Savior.”
 
I think this brings up an interesting question that can be found throughout the New Testament. Jesus and the Father are both called the Savior, does this tie them together and create the Trinity? Does Jesus actually save us or is it the Father? It is by Jesus’ sacrifice, but isn’t it the Father who raised Jesus from the grave. As far as I can tell this is the only thing that combinds the Father and Son as being one, that they are both called Savior. How do you address this and what are your thoughts on Titus 2:13 as this is the verse that many Christians stand by as the greatest evidence that Jesus is Savior and God.


Is God the Father a Living Being?

April 14th, 2008

 At this point I don’t see enough evidence of God the Father being a living being; as he is not a part of creation and all that we see has been created. 

Hosea 11:9 “I am God and not a human; I am the Holy One, and I am among you.”

Romans 1:25 “They traded the truth of God for a lie. They worshiped and served what had been created instead of the God who created those things, who should be praised forever.”

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What are you waiting for?

April 14th, 2008

The Bible says we’d be given another comforter, the Holy Spirit.

We are not suppose to live our lives in waiting but proactively seeking to be like Christ. Ephesians 4:13

And don’t forget who raised this Christ from the grave.

I am God and not a human; I am the Holy One, and I am among you. Hosea 11:9

To our God and Father be glory for ever and ever. Philippians 4:20

Now go out and be like Christ, following the will of the Father!


The Math of God

April 10th, 2008


The Trinity is a False Teaching?

April 6th, 2008


To Tithe Or Not To Tithe?

March 5th, 2008

Recently CBS ran a news clip on Tithing. Is a tithe old testament or new testament? Paul in the new testament was a tent maker and didn’t want to burden the Churches. Jesus told a rich man to give his money to the poor, if he wanted to follow him. Did Jesus telling people to donate to his cause? How are Churches spending the tithing that they receive?

Sunday Morning: A Spirited Debate Over The Power Of Giving In The Lives Of Believers

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Zeitgeist Movie - Be Informed

February 28th, 2008

I was shocked after watching this. Peter Joseph has produced a video that may cause you to look at religion and our government in a whole new light. Prepare to be challenged. The truth is out there, but what is it? 

View the Website:
http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com

A MUST SEE BY EVERYONE!

Or, See Zeitgeist in my Video List
You may also want to watch the video, “Why We Fight“.

Another bit of information about early Christianity:
SUN - DAY WORSHIP TERMS

Pharmacratic Inquisition

QI - Christmas, Christianity and Mithras

Zeitgeist Refuted


FIRST COUNCIL OF NICAEA - 325 AD

February 25th, 2008

Although I thought the the full concept of the Trinity was being decided at the Council of Nicaea, it appears that it had primarily been the deity of Christ, as being God. It seems that the holy Spirit was added in some time after, between 325-381, possibly in the First Council of Constantinople. 

Straight from the Council of Nicaea is this Biblical?

“We believe in one God the Father Almighty, Maker of all things visible and invisible; and in one Lord Jesus Christ, the only begotten of the Father, that is, of the substance [ek tes ousias] of the Father, God of God, light of light, true God of true God, begotten not made, of the same substance with the Father [homoousion to patri], through whom all things were made both in heaven and on earth; who for us men and our salvation descended, was incarnate, and was made man, suffered and rose again the third day, ascended into heaven and cometh to judge the living and the dead. And in the Holy Ghost.
Those who say: There was a time when He was not, and He was not before He was begotten; and that He was made our of nothing (ex ouk onton); or who maintain that He is of another hypostasis or another substance [than the Father], or that the Son of God is created, or mutable, or subject to change, [them] the Catholic Church anathematizes.”
<source: http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/11044a.htm>

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What about the Godhead?

February 24th, 2008

I was recently reading about the trinity at ReachoutTrust.org (link) where I read this quote:

“The Father is not the same person as the Son; the Son is not the same person as the Holy Spirit; and the Holy Spirit is not the same person as Father. They are distinct persons; yet, they are all the one God. They are in absolute perfect harmony consisting of one substance. They are coeternal, coequal, and copowerful. If any one of the three were removed, there would be no God.”

First, I’m puzzled in that it says, “If any one of the three were removed, there would be no God.” Correct me if I’m wrong but didn’t Christ, the Son of God, die? Note that if he didn’t die, his crucifixan would have been in vain. But the Bible says he did die. But if Jesus died, he was truly dead, because we know that which is dead is not alive. There is an Old Testament prophecy given in Psalm 16:10 stating, “…you will not abandon me to the grave, nor will you let your Holy One see decay.” If Jesus was not truely dead why would God have to raise him from death as described in Act 13:29-37. The Question to ask is can God die?

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God anoints Jesus… Questions on the Trinity

February 18th, 2008

Conflict with the Trinity…

John 4:23-24
23Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks. 24God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in spirit and in truth.”

Acts 10

37You know what has happened throughout Judea, beginning in Galilee after the baptism that John preached— 38how God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit and power, and how he went around doing good and healing all who were under the power of the devil, because God was with him.

42He commanded us to preach to the people and to testify that he is the one whom God appointed as judge of the living and the dead.

By this we can see God is spirit; God anointed Jesus with his spirit and dwelt with him, just as through Christ’s death on the cross the spirit now dwells in us; the father is with us. God would have no need to anoint Jesus with the holy spirit if Jesus were already fully God. I will note that the Bible also says that Christ spirit is with us. It’s possible we all share a connection to God through the spirit.

We may all share one spirit of God?